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Who will save men who are burnt?
Virag Dhulia , Bangalore: Jun 1 2009
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Who will save men who are burnt?

As I read this article, wherein Supreme Court judge is calling for hanging of people who burn brides, a hailstorm of thoughts crosses my mind. Being the Public Relations Officer of Save Indian Family Foundation, an NGO dedicated to promote the cause of Gender Equality and Family Harmony, I come across cases of men wronged by their wives on a daily basis wherein men are simply penalized for the mere fact that they are men.

One mere complaint of harassment from their wives, whether true or not, lands them in jail along with all their family members named in the complaint without any trial or investigation. Many lose their self-esteem, jobs even, commit suicide as evident from the suicide statistics available with the National Crime Records Bureau (NCRB).

As per the statistics, 57593 married men committed suicide in 2007 vis-à-vis 30064 married women. Figures for 2006 were 55452 married men vs. 29869 married women while those for 2005 are 52483 married men vs. 28188 married women. Every year more and more married men are committing suicide. But still there is no protection given to men. A major contribution of this comes from the misuse of dowry laws against men wherein a social presumption works against them

Now coming back to the article I’ve referred, Markenday Katju, Justice, Supreme Court of India today made a statement that “Those who burn brides should be hanged.” But, who is going to prove that the bride was burned? Will a man be hanged if his adulterous wife puts kerosene on herself and dies of burning? Or if the parents of the girl kill their daughter and then put the blame on the husband, then will the husband be hung?

And when you make a gender biased statement, “Those who burn brides need to be hanged”, why is it that you are not ready to offer the same level of protection to married men who are burnt alive? What is their fault? According to the NCRB data 3400 married are burnt alive every year on an average.

Further, Justice Katju went on to say that, “They all say that. Every time they burn a bride, they say it was a suicide.” Now this is nothing short of imposing his own assumptions on to the society, a right which he does not have, not even as a Supreme Court judge. First of all, he has assumed that all married women who die of burning are killed by their in-laws.

There is no basis for his assumption as death due to burning can happen due to any reason, even kitchen accidents, negligence by women, suicide etc. And it will definitely not be in the interest of justice to hang the husband for these cases but from what views have transpired out of Katju’s statement, it is clearly evident that he has taken a gender obsessed stand which is not acceptable from a Supreme Court Judge.

Justice Katju’s statements are a clear call for the need of Judicial Reforms. Also in addition, before hanging husbands for ‘allegedly’ burning brides, Justice Katju needs to remember that the police force does not conduct a fair inquiry into the incident and merely relies on statements and is thoroughly incompetent in collecting evidences. With such lousy investigation and presumptions working at the back of mind, justice cannot be expected out of courts and in such a situation; “Judicial Reforms” is the call of the day.

With M Veerappa Moily becoming the law minister and talking of “Judicial Reforms” as the first thing to be done, some hope is definitely restored because Judicial Reforms are utmost necessary in today’s times of deteriorating faith on the judiciary.

With irresponsible statements coming from the judiciary, it is clearly evident that the intellectual level of the judiciary has severely degraded. SIFF calls upon all the citizens to take part in judicial reforms as that is the only way to reduce crime in the society. Today criminals have no fear of any punishment because either the judiciary is too slow and corrupt or is involved in social service with gender obsessed statements.

Justice Katju had also made controversial statement, Bow down before your wife wherein he told; listen to your wife, even if she sounds unreasonable. Such statements from the judiciary send a strong signal to men that they should not expect justice from the courts and the question still remains open, “Who will save men who are burnt?”

My question to Justice Katju, “Can you?”, “Will you?”

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Julie
New Delhi, India
You will Virag, who else?
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Prassoon Suryadas 498a.org
Austin, Texas, United States
Julie, thanks for showing confidence in Virag. He has brought in to day light very valid points and perhaps many people are not ready to accept the facts yet. It is high time we need to trash all the gender-biased non-constitutional laws and establish the fundamental rights of MEN.
(Global Perspectives)
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Would have loved to, but unfortunately I do not have that authority.

And the people who have that authority, our law makers, Govts., contractors of society, the judiciary are not doing it. And what they don’t realize is that this is harming the society more than men.

With such anti-men sentiments more and more Baazigars will form who care a damn about society and responsibility. Choice is with the society.
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Wonda L
Earth, Canada
Most laws were made by men and if there isn’t any change or perceived bad laws then it was man not woman who should be held responsible
Men have been holding the world up ever since they forced their nasty hands around earth and when things go bad won’t even let go long enough to let woman hold on for a while
What men do is carry on like the babies they are ,blaming woman for his tired hands
Let go ,and let the soft and caring hands of woman hold earth up for a while
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Prassoon Suryadas 498a.org
Austin, Texas, United States
caring hands of woman showed the path to heaven for those pathetic husbands. This is not a war against women, this is a modest protest to establish the fundamental rights of civilians. Wayne’s desparate attempt to make it a gender war will not work out here. This is protest towards the legislator and judiciary not towards WOMEN as a whole.
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Nuya Bidness
Birmingham, United States
Well, like Wayne so wittily pointed out, women do not make the laws.


Has the incidence of women dieing from fire gotten less since these laws were enacted?
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Prassoon Suryadas 498a.org
Austin, Texas, United States
Thats in the west were you never had any women ruler. India had seen women rulers since 1966 who also participate in making laws. Even now Indian President is a woman. Wayne needs to improve his general knowledge before vomiting garbage.
(Global Perspectives)
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Nuya Bidness
Birmingham, United States
ok, then who voted for her? Men did, because there are 40 million more men than women in your country. She could not have won on women’s votes alone.
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Aneez
Mumbai, India
@ Nuya

ok, then who voted for her? Men did, because there are 40 million more men than women in your country. She could not have won on women’s votes alone.

Nuya, you won’t get a response from Virag or his ass-mates on this comment!

However, let me clarify.

She certainly could not have won on women’s votes alone... because the general male population of India does not give a shit to ideologies supported by these women-haters!

And now just wait and see how they team up and attack me for supporting you. :-)

You know, these peoples also resort to multiple IDs and post comments under different names to show their strength. :-)
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Prassoon Suryadas 498a.org
Austin, Texas, United States
Nuya: Why are you going paranoid after MEN? Indian women got voting rights even 10years before US women did, do you know that? As I told earlier this is not a gender war, and no one here is against any women. But the fight is for the fundamental rights of equality before law. A judge from Apex court is saying “Those who burn brides should be hanged.” Ok, agree. So what should we do with the perpetrators of groom killers?

I would recommend you to read the blog before you comment with prejudice.
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Nuya Bidness
Birmingham, United States
Thanks for the warning Aneez, I was hoping that was the answer, but I figured it more along the lines ..men stand around and complain about things while not even bothering to go vote and women go out and get things done.
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Nuya Bidness
Birmingham, United States
A judge from Apex court is saying “Those who burn brides should be hanged.” Ok, agree. So what should we do with the perpetrators of groom killers?


Passoon, the answer to that is hang them too of course!

Personally, I find murder abhorrent even if it is being done by the government, but if the law says kill one, then it has to kill the other as well.
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Nuya Bidness
Birmingham, United States
”Indian women got voting rights even 10years before US women did, do you know that?”

You know what I say to that? So what? Big deal!!!
10 years is a mere blink of the eye compared to the thousands of years that men have been voting on things while women were left at their mercy.
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Prassoon Suryadas 498a.org
Austin, Texas, United States
Nuya: I’ve no words to address you LMAO. Democracy isnt having that old history buddy :)). BTW India got independent in 1947 and women got voting rights in 1950 itself! You are saying men didnt go voting and women did, so who elected rulers and who made laws. :) are you really going nuts?
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Nuya Bidness
Birmingham, United States
Look up Passoon! See that post right above yours?


”10 years is a mere blink of the eye compared to the thousands of years that men have been voting on things while women were left at their mercy.”


So now, who voted for your female president? Men did!


The other comment was about men getting lazy when women are around to take care of things.
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ARVIND K.PANDEY
PRAYAG, India
Markandey Katju is used to making sensational and wild statements.He has also been publicly rebuked by Supreme court.

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The Supreme Court today publicly snubbed one of its judges for making “extraneous” comments in a judgment, but upheld his main ruling that makes a company management responsible for staff’s security.

Courts should not pass observations irrelevant to the case at hand because that “may lead to confusion in the minds of litigants, members of the public and the authorities”, a three-judge bench rebuked Justice Markandey Katju.

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1080222/jsp/nation/story_8934077.jsp

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The writing is clear on the wall:We need balanced judgments and that can only come from sensible judges!
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Shanju
Melbourne, Australia
Guys Guys! God created men and women to love each other and not to fight. We are incomplete without one another. Why do we have to fight and keep our mind tensed, can't we love and stay calm?
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